RE: Not being given the option of installing packages on setup

["Natalia \(Tasha\) Belfiore" <nmb at berkeley dot edu>]

Thanks for the note on not cc'ing you. I don't know how to reply to a
message if it doesn't come into my inbox. The messages I got from Dave and
from Rene earlier today only went to the list, and I can only see them by
looking at the archives. If there's a way to reply directly from that web
window, please let me know. I couldn't figure it out. That's why I cut and
pasted the message into my email software and sent the message the way I
did. 

To clarify: when I say I "reinstalled" cygwin, I mean that I re-downloaded
it from the web. When I say I tried to install a package after the cygwin
install, it means I went to the setup and tried to add packages. It is
actually difficult to reinstall cygwin because once I've done it, if I try
to do it again, it just copies the files from the temp file onto my desktop
again. It doesn't allow me to go to another site or select different options
unless I delete all copies, all shortcuts, and reboot my computer. I don't
know if there's another way to do this but this is what I've seemed to have
to do. I will try it again and see if I can see the packages by toggling
between view and full. I didn't have to do this in the other install I did
on my desktop back in November so it never occurred to me to try it more
than the one time I did and got a blank window. When I run cygcheck -cd perl
as you did, on my desktop, I get the exact same thing that you showed me.
When I run it on my laptop version, I get nothing. If I type perl -v on the
laptop install, I get the bash: perl command not found error. 

Regarding the cut and paste options: maybe I'm missing something, but from
the FAQ entry that you pointed to, it gives instructions for win NT and win
9.x. I have win XP and there is no "properties" dialog. The top of the
console window is entirely blank. Is this something I can change? 

Thanks
Tasha


-----Original Message-----
From: Igor Peshansky [mailto:pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:41 PM
To: Natalia (Tasha) Belfiore
Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: RE: Not being given the option of installing packages on setup


Tasha,

Please make sure your mailer respects the Reply-To: header -- I set it for a
reason.  Both Dave and I read the list regularly -- it was not necessary to
Cc: us.

<http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU> reformatted.
Also, <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>.  Thanks.

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Natalia (Tasha) Belfiore wrote:

> * From: "Dave Korn" <dave dot korn at artimi dot com>
> * Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:16:48 +0100
>
> > On 18 April 2006 16:47, Natalia M. Belfiore wrote:
> >
> > > 1. I did try switching to full mode and everything disappeared in 
> > > the menu of choices.
> >
> >   Are you sure that the column widths on the chooser aren't just 
> > messed up or it's scrolled too far or something like that?
> >
> > > 4. I have attached a text file of the cygcheck -svc output.
> >
> >   Which reveals you to have a fully working cygwin installation.
> >
> >   BTW, when it says "Skip" next to something and you want that 
> > something installed, click on the word "Skip" and it should change 
> > to a version number (if it's a single package), which means "install 
> > this version", or the word "Install" (if it's an entire category), 
> > which means "Install current versions of all packages in category".
>
> * From: Igor Peshansky [mailto:pechtcha@XX.XXX.XXX]
> * Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:50 AM
>
> > On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Natalia M. Belfiore wrote:
> >
> > > I was advised to send the output of cygcheck -svc to the problems 
> > > list. I don't know how to save that output. I can't grab it with 
> > > my mouse. Thanks
> >
> > Barry already replied about the particular case of problem reporting 
> > and "cygcheck -svr" output, but, for the future, this information is 
> > in the FAQ: 
> > <http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.using.html#faq.using.copy-and-paste>.
>
> Thanks for the various suggestions/comments. I'm afraid I am a little 
> bit confused. But here's what I can confirm after trying some more
> things:
>
> 1. there's no doubt I have a working cygwin installation, but perl was 
> not even on the list of packages I could choose in the install.

Are you sure?  Did you try switching to the "Full" view and maximizing the
setup window?

> Now that it's installed, it is not listed if I search by cygcheck -s, 
> cygcheck -c or cygcheck -p (I understand that at least one of those 
> should tell me what packages were downloaded and available to install, 
> even if I didn't manage to install it yet). I tried installing from 2 
> different mirror sites in case they were somehow different.

"cygcheck -cd perl" shows

Cygwin Package Information
Package              Version
perl                 5.8.7-5

on my machine.  "cygcheck -p perl" gives me 120 matches in various packages
(the search string "perl" is pretty general).  You're going to have to be
much more specific about the exact commands you're using for us to be able
to help you.

> 2. I seem to have unix utilities in my laptop install of cygwin.

Which is one of the purposes of Cygwin. :-)  As Dave said, according to the
output of "cygcheck -svr", you have a fully functional installation.

> 3. "skip" changed to "keep" after the initial install when I went back 
> to the setup.exe to see if I could install perl or anything else that 
> wasn't there when I first downloaded, later. This makes sense in light 
> of Dave's comment below.

Setup also supports the "Not installed" and "Up-to-date" views (keep cycling
that view button).  Anything available for installation that you have not
installed should be in the "Not installed" view.

In light of what Dave said, here's another WAG: are you installing "from the
internet", or "from a local directory"?  If the latter, you will only see
the packages you've previously downloaded to your machine.  If the former,
try choosing another mirror.

> 4. the rxvt option in the link that Igor sent me seems interesting. 
> But I have no idea how to "switch" these things. There wasn't enough 
> information in the page that I was linked to to tell me. I'm sorry -- 
> I'm new at this.

Did you read the rest of that FAQ entry (which instructs you how to do
copy/paste with the regular command window)? HTH,
	Igor
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