Re: Plausibility of sendmail?

[Brian dot Kelly at Empireblue dot com]

"Brian Dessent" <brian@dessent.net>@cygwin.com on 02/02/2004 01:10:44 AM

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Subject:    Re: Plausibility of sendmail?

>> If your intent is to use Windows+Cygwin+sendmail as a production mail
>> server, then you would be much better served (no pun intended) running
>> it on a native posix OS like Linux or FreeBSD

Seems to me you have not worked for many Fortune 500 size organizations -
where almost ALL your hardware and software purchasing decisions are made
by folks who *PRIDE* themselves on their *LACK* of technical expertise - as
if such were somehow evidence of their inability to *MANAGE*. In fact,
being a technical guru can often be career death in such places as the
*can't do's* endlessly convince themselves that the *can do's* can't
"manage  people". Which begs the question - "WHAT DOES CHOOSING HARDWARE
HAVE TO DO WITH *MANAGING PEOPLE*????????" But they do it anyway. And of
course when such *beings* make such decisions, they do so with assumptions
like "all open source is BAD" (while their web servers are running Apache),
and the CHEAPEST thing is *GOOD* - Intel rather than Sun or HP. Oh, but we
can't run Linux because that's *bad* *unsupported* open source!!

Then - their job done, and budget shot, they give a nearly impossible task
to their *inferior guru's* that really should only be done in a Unix
enviroment - enter CYGWIN. Of course it's *bad* open source, but now the
*manager* has promised his/her management that this new functionality would
be ready by week's end - without consulting the guru's first. So cygwin is
agreed to as a *temporary* solution (with the understanding that temporary
in such organizations could be two decades instead of three).

This is how a need for something like sendmail on cygwin could conceivably
come about - happens ALL the time.


Joaquin wrote:
>
> I check the FAQ and I couldn't find any reference to this.  I noticed
> that exim is there, kewl!, but what about sendmail?  Was there any work
> on porting this?
>
> BTW, I noticed that SFU3.5 seems to have a version of sendmail.

Maybe you could elaborate a little on why you want sendmail.  To my
knowledge there has been no work done to even begin considering
packaging sendmail for Cygwin, at least not officially (i.e. supported
by this mailing list, cygwin.com, and the setup.exe program.)  Someone,
somewhere might have done it and succeeded, but you're at the mercy of
Google in that case.  Part of me really wants to ask why in god's name
you'd want to inflict the utter crapulence of sendmail onto an otherwise
innocent system, but that's really just being snide.

If your intent is to use Windows+Cygwin+sendmail as a production mail
server, then you would be much better served (no pun intended) running
it on a native posix OS like Linux or FreeBSD, as there is a significant
performance and security impact of emulating Posix under Windows.

If you're just after 'sendmail compatibility' then both ssmtp and exim
provide symbolic links to /usr/sbin/sendmail.  So any script or other
type of app that wants to just send out email by invoking the sendmail
command should work fine.

Brian

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