Re: Simplifying Cygwin PosgreSQL Installation

[Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha at cs dot nyu dot edu>]

Glenn,

This should be helpful:
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-10/msg00109.html
	Igor

On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Glenn Murray wrote:

> Jason,
>
> Thanks again for the reply.  I think that command line support in
> setup.exe is a great idea.  I noticed when browsing through the source
> code that there were comments about it.  With command line support
> many, if not all of the dialogs could be skipped, and it might make it
> possible to install Cygwin as part of other applications when no/slow
> internet connections are present.  This would be ideal.  I'd like to
> contribute, too, but there are issues:
>
> 1. I've never written a line of C/C++ code in my life.  I have no
>    notion of pointers, memory allocation, macros or linking.  I've
>    never made or applied patches.  The most I've done is type
>    "./configure" and "make".  I believe I've heard that C++ has
>    something of a nontrivial learning curve---I doubt anyone wants me
>    hacking around their C++ code.
>
> 2. Currently "./configure" and "make" do not work with the setup.exe
>    source package.  I spent a couple hours last week trying to get the
>    thing to compile without success, thinking I might just try to hack
>    it a bit.  Searching the mailing lists indicated that that perhaps
>    I should try with gcc 2.95 and not 3.1, but "mingw"
>    support---whatever that is---is necessary and not available as a
>    Cygwin package for 2.95, or so it seems.
>
> I don't think I'm the right guy for the job, at least not without a
> *lot* of hand-holding.  My guess is that a real Cygwin developer would
> prefer just making the fix instead of trying to shepherd me through
> the process.  That said, I'd be willing to donate some time to trying
> if anyone is interested in said hand-holding.
>
> As a meta-remark regarding your (kind) suggestion that my project be
> made a Cygwin package.  I thought about that.  The Cygwin distribution
> contains mostly general purpose tools, especially those of interest to
> developers and people interacting with *nix.  Our project is written
> in Java, and of interest to gas-phase chemical process engineers.  I
> don't believe there is a single Java app in Cygwin, is there?  Nor do
> there seem to be large packages for specialized audiences like ours.
> I'm not sure that Cygwin ever intends to have such packages.
>
> On the other hand, if the Cygwin install process could be streamlined,
> its tools could be used by application developers and piggy-backed on
> their installations, and a lot more bona fide Cygwin distributions
> would be installed.  (Just musing out loud, here.)
>
> Anyway, thanks again,
> Glenn Murray
> http://www.mines.edu/~gmurray
>
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Jason Tishler wrote:
>
> > Glenn,
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 04:46:51PM -0600, Glenn Murray wrote:
> > > Thank you very much for your reply, I am learning a lot already.
> >
> > You are welcome.
> >
> > > Keep in mind that my goal is to simplify installation of Cygwin
> > > PostreSQL, not to mention cygipc.  The difficult part of the install
> > > is navigating through the setup.exe dialogs.  Your Suggestion #2
> > > reproduces that problem and your Suggestion #3 makes it harder.  Only
> > > your Suggestion #1 might simplify this by enabling me to tell the user
> > > to "Hit the `Next' button until done", so let me ask about that.
> >
> > Agreed.  You can solve the above issue, by contributing command line
> > support to Cygwin's setup.exe.  Note that the infrastructure required
> > for this support is already implemented.  Search cygwin-apps@ for the
> > details.
> >
> > > By "Create a minimal Cygwin mirror" do you mean create a space on a
> > > web server and put files (as described in
> > > http://cygwin.com/setup.html) that setup.exe can find?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > I did a search in cygwin-apps for "upset" and found lots of references
> > > but not an explanation.  I take it that upset helps build a setup.ini
> > > file which gets downloaded from the mirror.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > Where do you get it?  I didn't find "upset" as a cygwin package.
> >
> > See the following:
> >
> >     http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-07/msg00175.html
> >
> > > How does setup.exe see this mirror and not the official Cygwin
> > > mirrors, i.e., how do I "point my Windows users" to that particular
> > > mirror?
> >
> > Just tell your users to enter your specified "User URL" in the "Choose A
> > Download Site" dialog.
> >
> > Jason

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