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Fwd: Re: Upset
- From: "James R. Phillips" <antiskid56-cygwin at yahoo dot com>
- To: cygwin-talk at cygwin dot com
- Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 16:48:49 -0700 (PDT)
- Subject: Fwd: Re: Upset
- Reply-to: The Cygwin-Talk Malingering List <cygwin-talk at cygwin dot com>
- Reply-to: antiskid56-cygwin at yahoo dot com
--- Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:07:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Igor Pechtchanski
> To: "James R. Phillips"
> CC: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Upset (was Re: [ITP] libmad/libmad0/libmad-devel: A high-quality
> MPEG audio decoder
>
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, James R. Phillips wrote:
>
> > --- Charles Wilson wrote:
> >
> > > Side note: I often use an old copy of upset to generate setup.ini's for
> > > my locally built packages which I store in a cygwin/release tree on my
> > > private server, and add that URI to my setup.exe's URI list. I once
> > > advocated ("RFD: A modest proposal #2: unsupported"
> > > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-04/msg00306.html) having an
> > > 'unsupported' tree on the official mirrors similar to the existing
> > > 'release' tree but that was shot down for good reason. IIRC at some
> > > point in the discussion it was pointed out that the existing
> > > functionality in setup was sufficient to solve the problem I described,
> > > and much more flexible, and did not require official sanction from the
> > > cygwin mirror system.
> >
> > How nice for you, and other long-time cygwin developers/packagers that
> > have been grandfathered into this arrangement, because you downloaded
> > upset when it was available, which it is not now, thus reducing the
> > testability and quality of packages built by those not having this
> > resource. It must be wonderful to have powerful tools like this - kind
> > of like having unix available in windows.
>
> I've asked this before, and didn't quite understand the rationale for
> pulling upset from CVS (I *could* understand not accepting patches for it,
> and vetoing attempts to add it to the distribution). Upset is a tool that
> lets others generate external mirrors with their own packages; keeping it
> on sourceware essentially guarantees that those mirrors will have the
> format compatible with setup.exe. Perhaps we could bring it back as a
> tool to aid packagers, with the comment at the top that it's not to be
> changed or released by anyone except CGF?
>
> FWIW, googling for "cygwin setup upset" brings up two versions: Yaakov's
> (at cygwin-ports.sourceforge.net), and Reini's (at xarch.tu-graz.ac.at).
> HTH,
> Igor
> --
Both these sites look interesting, and are probably of interest to a wider
audience. I only find a version of upset at xarch.tu-graz.ac.at.
JRP