Re: [ITP] wtf

[Ronald Landheer-Cieslak <blytkerchan at users dot sourceforge dot net>]

On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 08:56:57AM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> Great, that makes 3 votes.  Now all I have to do is get someone to review
> the packaging (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).
FWIW, I've installed the binary - it seems to be working nicely. I've tried
bowth wtf and wtfindex.
I've also recompiled the source to see if I can - no problems..

> I don't see a particular value in weeding out duplicates, as all variants
> will be displayed, so no information is lost.
Actually, they only get displayed if they're in different files - bug?

> However, I'll see if I could "hide" the original acronyms...
The thing that got me to ask was this:
$ wtf iirc
iirc: If I Recall Correctly
iirc: if I recall correctly

and personally, I think this may come off as odd:
$ wtf iwfm
iwfm: It Works For Me.  Also WFM. Corinna, you want credit for this one?

someone not familiar with the web version of the OLOCA might frown at this..
I don't really mind, though..

However, there are some things not quite in accordance with the wtf way of 
doing things in the OLOCA:

$ wtf Cygwin
Cygwin: Multiple variants have been suggested, take your pick:  Coolness You Get Where Initially None (mine) Can You Guess What's Implemented Next (mine) Cramming Your Gut With Indispensable Necessities (Gary R. Van Sickle) Cygwin: Your Greatest Winner In Necessities (Ronald Landheer-Cieslak) Can't You Get With It, Ninnies? (Christopher Faylor)

IMHO, this should be
$ wtf Cygwin
Cygwin: Coolness You Get Where Initially None (mine)
Cygwin: Can You Guess What's Implemented Next (mine)
Cygwin: Cramming Your Gut With Indispensable Necessities (Gary R. Van Sickle)
Cygwin: Cygwin: Your Greatest Winner In Necessities (Ronald Landheer-Cieslak)
Cygwin: Can't You Get With It, Ninnies? (Christopher Faylor)

but I don't see how to do that at the moment - at least not without either 
patching wtf so it takes multiple entries for the same acronym in a single 
file into account, or making several files for the various duplicates..

Hmm.. this looks like a PTC situation..

Anyways, this doesn't alter my vote in any way :) 

Perhaps, if I have the time @ home, I'll work out a patch to handle different
meanings for the same acronym "correctly" .. perhaps .. 
<lament>
	ah, for time
	'tis such a precious gift
	wasting it's a heinous crime
	for it should be spent in thrift
</lament>

rlc

> Anyway, I'll work on the perl script and on getting the acronym list up to
> date (there have been some changes in the OLOCA) in the next few days, and
> will release a new iteration of the package then.  The packaging won't
> change, so the current one can be reviewed, but please don't upload it
> until I post the new one (I'll notify the list, obviously).  Thanks,
> 	Igor
> 
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote:
> 
> > Has my vote,
> >
> > Just a small note, though: most of the OLOCA acronyms are a lot more verbose
> > than their wtf counterparts, and some of them are duplicates. would it be
> > possible to adapt your Perl script to weed out the (exact) duplicates?
> >
> > JAT (*)
> >
> > rlc
> >
> > (*) JAT: Just A Thought - neither in wtf nor the OLOCA I'm afraid..
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 08:17:11PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > As per John Morrison's suggestion, I would like to contribute and maintain
> > > wtf (http://cronus.comp.utas.edu.au/~thsutton/computing/wtf.html).
> > >
> > > wtf(6) is a utility provided by some UNIX and UNIX-like systems including
> > > Slackware Linux and NetBSD.  It translates acronyms and filename suffixes
> > > by looking up the definition of a term in various databases.
> > >
> > > I've added the OLOCA to the database directory (named %OLOCA to place it
> > > first in search order).  There's also a perl script that can update that
> > > file from the web version of the OLOCA (also requires wget), but since
> > > this rule is totally optional (and won't be invoked in the default build),
> > > I didn't put perl and wget as prerequisites for building wtf.  This is
> > > mentioned in wtf.README as well.
> > >
> > > http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/cygwin/wtf/wtf-0.0.3-1.tar.bz2
> > > http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/cygwin/wtf/wtf-0.0.3-1-src.tar.bz2
> > > http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/cygwin/wtf/setup.hint (also inline below)
> > >
> > > sdesc: "translates acronyms and filename suffixes for you"
> > > ldesc: "wtf translates acronyms and filename suffixes for you.
> > >
> > > The wtf program looks-up the definition of a term. It supports a
> > > number of definition sources. In this version they are an acronyms
> > > database and qa filename suffixes database."
> > > requires: cygwin
> > > category: Text Doc
> > >
> > >         Igor
> 
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